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Old 05-13-2019, 09:40 AM   #181
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Sometimes - in fact, MANY TIMES - players play hard, balls bounce this way and bounce that way, and things just happen.
That's the media for you. I've said many times sports media has a rooting interest: The Story. They want their job to be written for them w/minimal effort. Telling the whole truth gets in the way.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:42 AM   #182
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U of M.'s John Beilein to coach Cleveland.
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Old 05-13-2019, 06:44 PM   #183
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This is why I hate narratives. Not that I'm disagreeing with TheMaus because what he says is true. That is certainly the common take - the narrative... No disrespect to Kawai at all, because I think he is a phenomenal player. But the reality is that he shot 16-39. He missed a key FT. The last shot was just a chuck-up and happened to go in. These things happen...
i think this is very fine hair splitting. The only guy on Kawhi's team that produced as well was Siakam. Kawhi led every game except for one in points, and he had good efficiency throughout. He had a Russ heroball type boxsxore, but i think even Russ wouldnt get the type of outcome that Kawhi got. Also if this series were played out with DeRozan Philly would have beaten them with brute talent.
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:43 PM   #184
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i think this is very fine hair splitting. The only guy on Kawhi's team that produced as well was Siakam. Kawhi led every game except for one in points, and he had good efficiency throughout. He had a Russ heroball type boxsxore, but i think even Russ wouldnt get the type of outcome that Kawhi got. Also if this series were played out with DeRozan Philly would have beaten them with brute talent.
I don't disagree with any of that. Again, I think Kawhi is a great player. What I have a problem with is the narrative that the rim-rattler was a product - or more evidence - of his greatness; that it was a clutch shot. It was not. It was just luck, and great players - and lesser ones - get lucky. And sometimes they get unlucky... Yes, he shot well in 4th quarter - certainly compared to earlier in the game. But if what turned out to be his game-winner is a fraction of inch in any direction, it misses. It was difficult shot that was considerably off compared to what he was attempting to do. Again, this is not a criticism of him. But things just happen. He's not a choker because he shot poorly overall in a game 7 and missed a crucial free-throw. And in my book he would not have been a choker because of those things, even had his shot rimmed out and had Philly won in OT.

Or how about Lillard. So much talk about how he was clutch in the elimination game (and the deeeeep game-winning heave) against OKC. But then he serves up a clunker in a game seven against the Nuggets. Was he clutch in the OKC game? No, not in my book. He's a great player who had a great game and a great ending moment. Was he a choker in Gm 7 vs Denver? No, he just had a poor-shooting game. Yet, the narratives are / would-be inconsistent. The narrative labels him clutch for the OKC game, but did NOT label him a choker for the Gm 7 dud against the Nuggets. But it surely would've labeled him a choker (or at least something like it) had McCallum not had a phenomenal game and Portland won.

To put it another way, if you (not necessarily you, TheMaus2) feel that Kawhi is "clutch" because he hit that shot, why don't you feel that he choked when he shot so poorly during the bulk of a game seven, and especially when he missed that crucial free throw near the end?
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That is why I like the Bucks to comfortably win the series against the Raptors.

Even if the Raptors can slow down Giannis (slow down meaning like 22/8 on 50% FG)
The Bucks have 3-4 other players on any given night that also produce.
Brogdon should also come back and be very close to 100% and he is such an efficient shooter, good defender and one of the highest IQ players and best assist/TO players in the league. He is going to get paid this summer by someone.
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went through two lottery simulations and the hornets ended up with the 1 and 2 picks in both. Zion landing in Charlotte would be the worst case scenario for the NBA tbh
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David Griffin just lucked into the best rebound situation in the league wow
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David Griffin just lucked into the best rebound situation in the league wow
Just glad he didn't end up on the Bulls/Knicks/Lakers/Sixers. Only so much more Zion fatigue I can endure.
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Why would the Knicks want Kyrie & not Kawhi?
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I think you answered your own question.
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I thought this series would be a lot closer than it's been. I haven't seen the Warriors play like there is a fire up their ass in quite some time.
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Why would either of them want to play for the Knicks?
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To add to the Knicks numerous NBA championship banners.
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