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I don't see a problem with it in fictional leagues. You can't do it in strictly historical league for the obvious reason a woman hasn't played and therefore no stats to get ratings from. But if someone wants a females in a historical/fictional league I don't see why not.
But I'm not sure what benefit it is. To be honest I never thought about it. But that may be because it's been men only in mlb. |
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You're just imagining the league as part of an elaborate second life?
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Believe it or not, I spent a whole night removing facial hair from the facegens in the all women’s league I created last year. I agree that adding female players would be a plus. I developed Serena Williams into an insane HR machine at 3rd base
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I really hope we see it one day. Not only would a "what if a female broke into the major leagues one day" be incredibly interesting, but I think it could only help attract more females to OOTP. Just think, while MLB fans are largely male, around 30% are female. What would you say the breakdown is around here? While I'm sure there are several who don't announce it, I can only name 2 OOTP users, and only 1 current, who are female. Now yeah, that 30% are fans of MLB so they obviously don't need females to be in the game to like it, but it'd probably be something that would get some people, female and male, tweaked into trying out the game when they wouldn't consider it otherwise.
I seem to remember we were told years ago that the hardest part would be re-doing the pbp as it is all hard-coded to men only, but it seems to me that that's something that once some code is written that the text changes could be out-sourced to community volunteers. I realize there's more to it for the developers than that, but how hard can it be for us to do a bunch of find and replace commands on the text? RchW brings up a good point that the player generation system (and probably the development system too) would have to be tweaked for them, but maybe one day Matt or somebody will just want to do it and we'll get it seemingly out of nowhere. That's the great thing about having more than one developer: what one person might have no interest in working on, another person might have a lot of interest in. And to those who say it'll never happen in MLB, people decades ago probably would have said we'd never see a switch-pitcher and look at Pat Venditte now. Nah, we'll see a female MLBer, probably up the middle somewhere, but we'll see one, some day. I just hope we'll be avante-garde about it rather then dig our heels in the mud and only relent once that day comes.
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At this point Im so invested Im pretty sure this is my imaginary life and the baseball is real
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One of the many reasons Markus has said it's not a priority is the massive amount of text editing that would be required, especially in the built in code. Think about it for a second - every time the words "he" or "him" or "his" comes up, you need "she" "her" "hers" also. Then you need to code it to come up at the right time.
You can't just code it so female gender shows for female league and male for male, because you can bet your bottom dollar people will want to play mixed leagues. That's another can of grammar worms to mess with. There's a lot more to it then adding names and facegens. ![]()
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This is one of those weird ideas that would require an extreme amount of resources and effort, and it would only ever be used by a tiny, militant fraction of users. Fictional players are a minority, and the percentage of even the fictional players who would ever play a female league is a tiny, tiny minority. It just doesn't make any economic sense; the resources and effort required would be far better spent making the entire game better for all users.
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You mean not one has ever played in an MLB game, but considering that you can use this game to play in many different settings than MLB (I am playing a Can-Am game just now), there are many 'actual official' games that are not MLB. There has been a professional 'girls' baseball league, or did you forget? I would love to see this in the game... but I admit it falls behind incorporating the Negro Leagues and the WBC on a priority list for me. |
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When female players manage to hang on in the minors or even reach the Show we'll see this happen I'm sure. I remember Eri Yoshida was playing in the Golden League for a few seasons but her slash line was not impressive.
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You know that there's a setting in Team Settings that you can check to prevent facial hair for that team. That would be the easiest way to prevent facial hair.
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I'm not militant against fictional players per se; I'm just very, very tired of the fictional tail trying to wag the OOTP dog.
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It's going to happen one day. Bound to. I don't see how it would harm the game if she can play. That Phil Niekro and the SIlver Bullets novelty team in several years back wasn't the end of the world as some called it at the time. If a woman can play the game and deserves a place in pro ball then it will happen. Who knows if it will but the French girl has talent. |
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The size issue is real. You overstate the case at 6' 5" and 280lb but in reality as with every sport baseball has become a big mans game. The Blue Jays by eye don't strike me as a "big" team in any way yet average 6 feet 1.5 inches and 206lb. I watched the Reds play a ST game some years ago with an average weight of 235lb on the field! The most obvious difference in baseball is the growth in size and weight of middle infielders over the last 2 decades. Unfortunately for women the likeliest chance they have at competing in professional baseball would be at SS/2B. A large athletic woman even at 6 feet is likely to weigh 160-190lb. Competing with just an average male baseball player with similar skill and greater strength and mass would be an extreme challenge. Not saying it is impossible but the 1% of males that make it all the way would be 0.1% or lower for females. Another point; teams lie (MLB too) about player size. I stood next to Matt Kemp a few year ago. He is listed at 6-4 210lb. That's a crock. I weighed 215lb at the time and he was easily 240lb IMO. The man was huge and muscled compared to my fat ass. ![]()
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It's all fictional. I think that's why I can't get into "real" MLB. It's not real. I see MLB Quickstart players on these boards constantly foaming at the mouth about how something about the quickstart isn't "realistic". You save yourself a lot of aggravation playing fictional. After a season or two, your fictional players are just as "real" as the ones in the MLB Quickstart. |
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