Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP Update 20.6 - OOTP 20 Available - FHM 5 Available

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Prior Versions of Our Games > Out of the Park Baseball 18 > OOTP 18 - Technical Support > Bug Reports Forum

Bug Reports Forum Have a bug to report? Please post here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-16-2017, 07:09 PM   #181
siobhan
Minors (Single A)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 53
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11x in 10 posts
Thanks for helping out, actionjackson. Since I don't know what reads .odb files (if anything) and since they're the exclusive way of reading stats now, I couldn't mention what entirely was missing. I could only say that Sam/Dolly Gray is getting Stan Gray's biographical info and Stan is getting Sam/Dolly Gray's stats and not know the entire specifics.

That said, I did notice that Stan Gray has a lot more neutralized data than he should. Since Stan played in 1912 and Sam/Dolly started in 1924, there's 11 extra years of neutralized batting that don't need to be there once the players are split.

And I guess you're right about graydo02. Sworn I'd seen it the other way...but whatever.
siobhan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2017, 07:15 PM   #182
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
Sam Gray MiLB id =gray--001sta ? 1922-1939

Stan Gray MiLB id = gray--002sta ? 1909-1913

MLB is only half the puzzle.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2017, 07:45 PM   #183
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by siobhan View Post
Thanks for helping out, actionjackson. Since I don't know what reads .odb files (if anything) Nothing does and since they're the exclusive way of reading stats now, I couldn't mention what entirely was missing. I could only say that Sam/Dolly Gray is getting Stan Gray's biographical info and Stan is getting Sam/Dolly Gray's stats and not know the entire specifics.

That said, I did notice that Stan Gray has a lot more neutralized data than he should. Since Stan played in 1912 and Sam/Dolly started in 1924, there's 11 extra years of neutralized batting that don't need to be there once the players are split.

And I guess you're right about graydo02. Sworn I'd seen it the other way...but whatever.
Who is Dolly Gray? I changed the Sam and Stan ID's in the MLB master as asked but did not switch nothing else around of a biographic nature. Double negative on porpoise as confusing this has become.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2017, 08:26 PM   #184
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
Who is Dolly Gray? I changed the Sam and Stan ID's in the MLB master as asked but did not switch nothing else around of a biographic nature. Double negative on porpoise as confusing this has become.
Dolly Gray would be graydo01 (also known as gray--003wil on the minor league side of things. Played in MLB from 1909-1911, and his total minor and major league career ran from 1903-1913.
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2017, 08:44 PM   #185
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
So are the changes I just made legit?

Does not seem so.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2017, 08:57 PM   #186
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
Sam Gray MiLB id =gray--001sta ? 1922-1939

Stan Gray MiLB id = gray--002sta ? 1909-1913

MLB is only half the puzzle.
Actually looking at BB-Ref, I get:

Sam Gray MiLB id = gray--002sam 1921-1939

Stan Gray MiLBid = gray--001sta 1909-1913

I'm starting to feel like I'm stuck in an Abbott & Costello "Who's On First?" routine.
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-16-2017, 09:03 PM   #187
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
So are the changes I just made legit?

Does not seem so.
It seems like they are to me. Don't worry about Dolly Gray (graydo01 or gray--003wil) for now. Different dude. Hopefully, he's not mixed up in this too, but I don't see any indication that he is. The stats that are intersecting are the major league stats of Sam Gray (graysa01 or gray--002sam) and Stan Gray (graydo02 or gray--001sta).
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 12:02 AM   #188
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
OK = Done

I really wish I could figure out why BBref is dead to me since their update.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 12:04 AM   #189
siobhan
Minors (Single A)
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 53
Thanks: 9
Thanked 11x in 10 posts
Minimal fielding stats for Lefty O'Doul?

Let's see if I can do this a little more detailed this time...

Using historical_database.odb, Lefty O'Doul (o'doule01 or odoul-001fra) doesn't import with any fielding stats beyond that of his early pitching years. Mostly, I notice this importing his 1929 season, but it applies with other years O'Doul was a position player as well. Basically, no matter what setting I set fielding at, he is always being considered a reliever with no outfield ratings. He does often have a rating at first base, but that might also be a problem; he never played first at the major league level.

Hope this is suitable.
siobhan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 12:22 AM   #190
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
Mr. O'Doul has a full set of fielding records in both the MLB and MiLB databases.

This is a bug. There was a import bug introduced around the last update that might be the culprit if you have not seen this before.

First base is where the game puts players it has no fielding data for.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

Last edited by Spritze; 04-17-2017 at 12:48 AM.
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 11:07 AM   #191
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by siobhan View Post
Let's see if I can do this a little more detailed this time...

Using historical_database.odb, Lefty O'Doul (o'doule01 or odoul-001fra) doesn't import with any fielding stats beyond that of his early pitching years. Mostly, I notice this importing his 1929 season, but it applies with other years O'Doul was a position player as well. Basically, no matter what setting I set fielding at, he is always being considered a reliever with no outfield ratings. He does often have a rating at first base, but that might also be a problem; he never played first at the major league level.

Hope this is suitable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
Mr. O'Doul has a full set of fielding records in both the MLB and MiLB databases.

This is a bug. There was a import bug introduced around the last update that might be the culprit if you have not seen this before.

First base is where the game puts players it has no fielding data for.
Gentlemen, I just imported Mr. O'Doul into my game (MLB version, not MiLB version). What I am seeing is this: batting, pitching, batting2, pitching2, and fielding2 stats are fine (the "2" indicates neutralized stats for those that didn't know). All come in properly. fielding stats only import for his pitching seasons though (1919, 1920, 1922, and 1923). His fielding stats for 1928-1934 are not present. That's what I'm seeing from in the game. I don't know about what's in the database because it hasn't been visible since OOTP16.
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 11:14 AM   #192
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
Gentlemen, I just imported Mr. O'Doul into my game (MLB version, not MiLB version). What I am seeing is this: batting, pitching, batting2, pitching2, and fielding2 stats are fine (the "2" indicates neutralized stats for those that didn't know). All come in properly. fielding stats only import for his pitching seasons though (1919, 1920, 1922, and 1923). His fielding stats for 1928-1934 are not present. That's what I'm seeing from in the game. I don't know about what's in the database because it hasn't been visible since OOTP16.
ALL stats are in the databases as noted above.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 11:36 AM   #193
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
OK = Done

I really wish I could figure out why BBref is dead to me since their update.
How is BB-Ref dead to you? I'm getting it just fine on my desktop. It is not a good situation when the OOTP Historical Czar is locked out of the source that we're currently using for our historical database. How did this happen?
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 11:39 AM   #194
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
ALL stats are in the databases as noted above.
And as I noted above all stats are showing up, with the tiny exception of his real fielding stats (i.e. fielding not fielding2) from 1928-1934. If it were an import error I would imagine none of the stats would be showing up at all, but that's not what I'm seeing. All of his neutered stats are fine, and his real batting and pitching stats are fine. Colour me confused.
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 12:07 PM   #195
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
How is BB-Ref dead to you? I'm getting it just fine on my desktop. It is not a good situation when the OOTP Historical Czar is locked out of the source that we're currently using for our historical database. How did this happen?
BBref updated their site to work better with phones. Ever since I cannot navigate their site. It hangs my computer and requires a reboot. I have this challenge with no other site.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 12:09 PM   #196
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjackson View Post
And as I noted above all stats are showing up, with the tiny exception of his real fielding stats (i.e. fielding not fielding2) from 1928-1934. If it were an import error I would imagine none of the stats would be showing up at all, but that's not what I'm seeing. All of his neutered stats are fine, and his real batting and pitching stats are fine. Colour me confused.
All the stats are correct in the OOTP db and the ID's all check out. It may be the same import bug others are seeing that started with the release before last.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2017, 12:21 PM   #197
actionjackson
Hall Of Famer
 
actionjackson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 5,048
Thanks: 7,376
Thanked 3,030x in 1,859 posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spritze View Post
BBref updated their site to work better with phones. Ever since I cannot navigate their site. It hangs my computer and requires a reboot. I have this challenge with no other site.
That's terrible news. If anything it's gotten easier to navigate for me since the format change. I guess the format must've been changed when the front page of the site changed.
actionjackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 02:04 PM   #198
thompsw8
All Star Reserve
 
thompsw8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 840
Thanks: 6
Thanked 30x in 26 posts
I am using OOTP 17 still for my historical online league. We are to the draft in 1991 but it is all fictional players. Now the draft has always been a year off but now this year there is no players and going into 1992 it starts drafting some of 1992 and some of 1993 players. Players like Derek Jeter, Todd Helton and some others are missing from the game and don't show up. Not sure what I need to post to see what is going on.
thompsw8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 02:35 PM   #199
Spritze
OOTP Historical Czar
 
Spritze's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana
Posts: 7,186
Thanks: 314
Thanked 3,230x in 1,899 posts
This same challenge exists in OOTP 18 but I suspect it may be fixed before too long.
__________________
It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!
Spritze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2017, 03:29 PM   #200
thompsw8
All Star Reserve
 
thompsw8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 840
Thanks: 6
Thanked 30x in 26 posts
I simmed forward a few seasons and the drafts only have like 5-6 fictional guys in it with no one else for 2-3 straight seasons. Is that also part of the same issue? Just want to make sure I clarified myself when I posted before. Because our online league has been going since mid 80's and this is the first time it has had a blank draft. But seems to get more common as we sim forward. If it is the same issue that's fine just want to make sure.
thompsw8 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:24 AM.

 

Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

The Major League Baseball Players Association (www.MLBPLAYERS.com ) is the collective bargaining representative for all professional baseball players of the thirty Major League Baseball teams and serves as the exclusive group licensing agent for commercial and licensing activities involving active Major League baseball players. On behalf of its members, it operates the Players Choice licensing program and the Players Choice Awards, which benefit the needy through the Major League Baseball Players Trust, a charitable foundation established and run entirely by Major League baseball players. Follow: @MLB_Players; @MLBPAClubhouse; @MLBPlayersTrust

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2017 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2018 Out of the Park Developments